Posts by life is to short

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So what caused you to have doubts in the first place?

by nicolaou in

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i had no doubts at all about the 'truth' untill a friend of mine in the cong' began falling away.

in trying to help him i had to ask questions and do research and that of course cracked the doors of my mind open for the first time in over thirty years.. years ago, when jwd allowed members to have signatures, i used the following quote from voltaire as mine.

i still love it.. doubt is uncomfortable, certainty is ridiculous..

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child molesters in the hall

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TV commercial seen in the United States, from a Law firm "Asking if you were ever sexually abused by JEHOVAHS WITNESSES, please call".

by Dunedain in

ok, so i don't know if this is "old news", and if this has been seen, and or mentioned already.

if it was, i do apologize, but i feel i have to mention what has been seen on tv, within the past 24 hours.. first off, i would like to say that i did not personally see this commercial.

however, it was seen by someone that i can verify 100% is telling the truth, as it was my own father who saw it.

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Also as far as allowing the parents to go to the police if they wish to do so, why the word wish? Why not demand that the police get involved first before anyone else, especially before uneducated elder's who know have not been trained speak to the child and traumatize the child further.

I was never told not to go to the police over child abuse but when my husband was an elder we had a mentally ill person threaten to kill us, I wanted to go to the police but we were forbidden to by the brothers at Bethel so as to not bring reproach on Jehovah's name. This man made my life a living hell for two years, stalking me and threatening to kill me and I had no power to do anything to stop it. So though I do not know if parents are allowed to go to the police here in the USA I do know we were not allowed to go over a stalker.

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TV commercial seen in the United States, from a Law firm "Asking if you were ever sexually abused by JEHOVAHS WITNESSES, please call".

by Dunedain in

ok, so i don't know if this is "old news", and if this has been seen, and or mentioned already.

if it was, i do apologize, but i feel i have to mention what has been seen on tv, within the past 24 hours.. first off, i would like to say that i did not personally see this commercial.

however, it was seen by someone that i can verify 100% is telling the truth, as it was my own father who saw it.

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Phoebe it might be in the UK and Ireland but it is not in the USA, I just spoke to the CO in July and he was adamant that no one knows and I was not tell anyone. No child molester that I know of is being followed anywhere in any hall or convention, if they were I would not be posting right now, they are allowed to got out in service and the ones that are assigned to work with them do not know they are child molesters, all they have to be is a mature adult. How is that safe for the public? The CoB would send the one child molester out with 18 year old's who knew nothing of his past or with his wife sometimes. She married him with a 7 year old child knowing he had served 10 years in prison for raping his own bio 5 year old child, How would either of these mature adult's protect a householder's child?

Flipper told me that his brother told him, parents were warned, but in reality they were not, they say what they can to calm people down but they do not do 2 adults on one child and do not follow any child molester that I have ever seen.

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TV commercial seen in the United States, from a Law firm "Asking if you were ever sexually abused by JEHOVAHS WITNESSES, please call".

by Dunedain in

ok, so i don't know if this is "old news", and if this has been seen, and or mentioned already.

if it was, i do apologize, but i feel i have to mention what has been seen on tv, within the past 24 hours.. first off, i would like to say that i did not personally see this commercial.

however, it was seen by someone that i can verify 100% is telling the truth, as it was my own father who saw it.

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I am just so glad these ad's are out even if like Landy and RO say it it will accomplish nothing at the very least they have made this public. The JW's can cry persecution, say that it is Satan's lies, etc but for the elder's in my hall and I am sure many other halls, they are going to be worried wondering when a victim, another Candace Conti might come forward and will it be them going to court defending why they allowed a child molester to be around the child in their hall.

If that is all that this accomplishes that in itself is a huge victory.

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TV commercial seen in the United States, from a Law firm "Asking if you were ever sexually abused by JEHOVAHS WITNESSES, please call".

by Dunedain in

ok, so i don't know if this is "old news", and if this has been seen, and or mentioned already.

if it was, i do apologize, but i feel i have to mention what has been seen on tv, within the past 24 hours.. first off, i would like to say that i did not personally see this commercial.

however, it was seen by someone that i can verify 100% is telling the truth, as it was my own father who saw it.

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I want to add my thanks also. CA love you post, it is so true. I was getting so depressed yesterday with ones who were trying to downplay this saying such stupid things as "The ad is simply a fishing expedition to see what it throws up."

Like I told that poster, this is not just some small nameless law firm but a major one, I am sure they have more to do than to just throw out bait for something stupid that they hope might bring in some more money for them. They have to have done some homework on this. They are exposing JW's in a very bad light. I told that poster that they could very well be sued if they are not careful and he shot back at me like I was a stupid fool, what can they be sued for. Like I am some idiot.

Well I was in a hall with 3 child molesters and NO they did not molest me but they were allowed to be around children and no parents were warned to watch their children around these men. I only found out by accident because my sister dated one of them otherwise I would never have known any of it. Once I found out about the one, it was leaked to me by another elder's wife that there were 2 more. One of the other 2 had been taking care of a mentally handicapped little girl so the mother could listen to the meetings without being disrupted by her child, I am sure she was not told he was a child molester. This pedophile had been taking the little girl who was 3 into the backroom alone and outside alone all with the elder's who knew he had been in prison for 8 years for raping a 8 year old child, approval. This child also could not talk, she was a perfect victim.

I was furious when I found out and went ballistic, I was an elder's wife at the time. I got the police and court records of the one I knew about, I flipped out and told a foster mom to watch her child. Now get this, one of the elder threatened to DF me for causing divisions in the hall. He also made a veiled threat that I could be sued for slander against the child molester. So when Landy said they cannot be sued I was threatened, granted I was not sued because as I said I had proof of everything, court and police records, etc, which the elder also flipped out about and told me I had to bussiness having, but the prosecuting attorney of my city told me were PUBLIC and that I had every right to have them and the elder's should have wanted to at least see them but they refused to even look at them. My life became a living hell. My husband was deleted as an elder because I was not in subjection enough.

I contacted the police, the child protective service, the parole officer, and Bethel, but as soon as I had flipped out the elders stopped the pedophile for taking care of the child and it seemed to me that they lied to the parole officer as I stupidly gave him the # of one of the elder's. When I next spoke to the officer he told me the pedophile was not holding children after speaking to the elder.

If I had known how it was all going to go down I would have kept my mouth shut, let the child molester keep taking the child into the backroom alone and gone outside to call the police. The police told me they would have came to the hall and at least talked to the elder's about it being against the law. But I flipped out first and the elder's pulled him from the child and it was my word against the elders.

Everyone I have spoken to is disgusted but until a child comes forward and says they were molested none of them can do anything.

It is just so frustrating to have ones like RO and Landy downplay this and try to make it seem like such a long shot. Maybe it is but to keep hammering it will scare ones from coming forward. Everyone I have spoken to in the law enforcement, down to CPS feel that in my hall a child was molested by the lack of care from the elder's in their, allowing the child molesters to be around children. But no one can do anything until a victim comes forward. One of pedophiles even held a baby shower with his wife. Seriously with the elder's approval he held a baby shower and elder's were there.

It just hits so close to home and is so crazy, why not at the very least not allow them around children and at the very least quietly tell the parents. The elder who got so mad at me for telling the foster mom, told me he had to convince the mom that the child molester was indeed safe to be around kids. This foster mom let her child sit with one of the pedophiles and his family when her child was just 4 years old or so and the mom got mad at me for telling her, because she believed the elder over me. I have the police and court records and none of the elder's wanted to see them only the CoB took them and very reluctantly at that.

I just get frustrated on this sight at ones who defend this religion and they way they are handling this problem.

I made a friend outside the JW's and she invited me to a Bible study that she went to with about 200 women, I went to try to make new friends, these women bring their children and the the study group is so serious about this problem that even though it is only women who attend, no men it is still 2 adults and one child PERIOD. If you work in the children's group you HAVE TO HAVE A BACKGROUND CHECK PERIOD!

I just do not understand why if a group like this that is small can do it why would not the JW's do it. It just does not make sense why they are fighting this and why ones like RO and Landy say that this is hopeless. None of this is making sense.

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NY Daily News: Gov. Cuomo unveils plan for Child Victims Act that would do away with statute of limitation

by AndersonsInfo in

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/cuomo-unveils-plan-child-victims-act-article-1.2943920.

cuomo unveils plan for child victims act that would do away with statute of limitation .

cuomo wants to get rid of statute of limitation for child victims.

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This is a start in the right direction, I think of SNAP and if it were not for the victims speaking out the world would not know of the abuse of children within the Catholic Church. Watch the movie Spotlight.

It may be slow but the more voices that speak out the better. All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

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Lake Worth, FL: Jehovah Witness teacher's aide sex scandal guilty on all counts

by AndersonsInfo in

http://wjla.com/news/nation-world/jehovah-witness-teachers-aide-sex-scandal-guilty-on-all-counts.

jehovah witness teacher's aide sex scandal guilty on all counts.

january 20, 2017. by mike magnoli.

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Thank you Barbara for sharing this and yes we need more case like this and also glad that the parents called the police instead of trying to keep Jehovah's name out of it.

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Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents

by Simon in

judge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.

imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.

by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.

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Simiddy just did a great thread on this very subject of debating ones like you and RO, you can't, win those convinced against their will are of the same opinion still.

Good day to you and Richard, enjoy your tea together.

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Is it just me ? 2 threads debating page after page with one individual ?

by smiddy in

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is it just me who doesnt see the point of this ?

from time to time we see some individual who takes up page after page arguing his or her point of view and it usually ends up with only 2 or 3 individuals who keep the talkfest going with a particular individual and nobodys getting anything out of it .. why bother ?

why get sucked in to such a pointless dialogue ?

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I am rethinking my answer and you do make a good point a very good point steve2 about RO, I just got sucked in myself and I wasted a lot of brain cells for what. It is just the topic of child sexual abuse makes me crazy when someone tries to defend it.

Smiddy you might be spot on.

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Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents

by Simon in

judge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.

imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.

by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.

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Landy again with all due respect, if it is being realistic than I truly doubt that a law firm would go to such trouble to be just realistic on a "fishing expedition to see what it throws up". Their name is at stake along with all the counter lawsuits that the Watchtower is now, you can be sure hitting them with. This is not just some silly little law firm with time on their hands to see what fish they might catch. And yes I have gotten professional help that's why I can stand up for what I truly in my heart believe, before ones like you and Richard would have driven me back,. Thanks for asking though.

Richard I know you can and email them all to the law firm.

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